Well sonofsamiam, since you dismissed my comment with virtually zero thought I hardly think you are the most analytical of people so we'll just chalk that up to a difference of opinion whilst it's still allowed, mkay? Do you deliberately look to start fights or what? It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Yes, justgary, you're right. This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric 'R Us. What word would you use to encompass those political beliefs? If you support non-violence and peace like MLK then you shouldn't feel the need to heap abuse on other people of differing viewpoints, you should talk calmly and respectfully. So if I dislike someone a lot, I in fact hate them. Career law enforcement professionals on the payroll of the U S governement subjected the King family--including Ms. Coretta--to wiretapping and electronic surveillance throughout Dr. King's career. Hate is a strong word. We are taught to hate the enemy — meaning anyone different than us — which leaves little room for vulnerability and an exploration of hate through empathic discourse and understanding. 2. Hatred is bitter-sweet as it inflates the ego and makes you feel very superior and self-righteous against the thing or one that is hated, only breeding further pain. I hope my funeral warants being politicized. Huh? As for class, Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course they don't have any class. It’s a form of healthy self-care to at least be able to recognize who’s good for me and who isn’t. My only problem with Rev. Shit, that's been the right's stock in trade since 9/11. Milquetoast sermons? Hate is too great a burden to bear. I readily admit there are those who hurt me I feel completely indifferent about. Basically, the argument the right gives seems to boil down to "well you shouldn't have brought up civil rights abuses at the funeral of a civil rights leader.". If I were King's family, I would have asked him, Republicans don't know how to have a funeral. Learn more. I'm beginning to suspect that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he'd be ripped straight from the pages of Euclid's. Voicing Hate When We Really Hurt. The only type of person who would say, when asked if MLK is a liberal, "Well, I would like to think MLK is above partisan labeling; I would call him a great human being," is the type who is trying to exploit MLK. v.intr. ‘Haters, that's what they are, just haters!’ ‘A story of how hate destroys the hater.’ ‘Haters will hate these tracks, for essentially the same reasons.’ ‘More now on the suspect, an alleged killer, but pretty clearly a proven hater.’ ‘Sounds like a bunch of jealous haters to me’ ‘He actually called me a hater… The fuss seems to be all from people who can't relate to her in the first place. And perhaps you should also like to think of Caesar without ever having to consider the existence of, "I'm glad republicans don't call MLK a liberal.". To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. I don't think Bush took the criticism too well. They have something to say to every politician [Audience:] (Yeah) who has fed his constituents with the stale bread of hatred and the spoiled meat of racism. It's not an ad hom when your comments are analyzed and it's concluded that you're not altogether very bright. and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the Gulf. Ya'll fuckin' serious, or can ya'll just drop the affected southern vernacular and step out of character now? 8. I first became aware of it while reading reviews of Good Night and Good Luck. I am no fan of the Bush movement, and I can see how one would argue it was the place, but it's not something I would probably have done. The truth hurts. Their death says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the American dream. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. As verbs the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is to be painful while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly. Where does the phrase come from? Kind of annoying, IMO. Why are you here? Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. Everything is political. Join 6,466 readers in helping fund MetaFilter. Next to meeting somebody who admires someone we admire, we all like to meet somebody who hates someone we hate. Share this quote: Like Quote. But bravo, Jek, you've proven yourself an excellent troll. Hate can give you that sexual flush and adrenalin rush that many crave. Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. Who's using her life and death to make points now? Today. I think Coretta would have been very, very pleased. cribcage: Oh. There was I thinking they kept winning because they rig elections, lie through their teeth, do their best to keep the electorate in fear and ignorance, get all the money because they're in cahoots with Corporate America at the expense of the averae citizen, are institutionally corrupt and think nothing - absolutely nothing - of smearing all those who disagree with them through a carefully created network of lying, whining, patronising bastiches like O'Reilly, etc who carefully spin republican talking points whilst claiming to be independent journalists who tell it like it is, are "fair and balanced" and so forth. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Completely true or not, that thought helps me forgive people who have injured me emotionally. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. Sounds like they sent Coretta up the way she would have wanted? Hate definition, to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. It’s only human to like some people more than others, to respect some more than other folks, to not be comfortable with some people and quite at home with others. I wonder how much Dexter can profit by licensing that quote (before it goes out of copyright anyway). Before I started this website I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a very successful blogger and who has more haters than I have hair on my head. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. Synonym Discussion of hate. Definitions of hate on-line are: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest; feel antipathy towards. February 8, 2006 3:53 PM Subscribe We could be gone tomorrow. C. Joybell C. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Hate is an obsession. The posters at MeFi are Democratic Party operatives, therefore it is fair to compare their influence with that of Karl Rove and the GOP. One possible reading might be that someone who is liberal would allow someone else to have an alternate viewpoint or ideology and respect that. Kettle. Old tactic. Haters overcompensate this aspect — the deeper they loved, the stronger they hate. Yes, cribcage. Emotional scars stand in the way. are those who care the most about what other people think. To establish a relationship with Black America? Don't look at hate as a reflection of yourself and your work, but don't use it as a crutch either. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. Is this the same President Bush who says his relationship with the NAACP is, Well, why the fcuk was Bush there? Either way, I’m on your mind.” Anonymous. Pinko? All posts copyright their original authors. I have fantasies about watching that man have a heart attack. I have come to the understanding that most who hurt others have been hurt themselves, often as children, and end up passing along their pain. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” – Israelmore Ayivor What on earth do you call. We're on a mission of turning inspiring quotes into beautiful wallpapers. This website exists to break down the barriers between people, to extend a weblog beyond just one person, and to foster discussion among its members. I am grateful to know the difference! This message of hatred is used to protect themselves from further hurt but it does not heal the hurt that has already been done to them. « Older Valentines for Perfect Strangers   |   That's Seargant Pug to You, Dammit Newer », This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments. Should anyone be surprised that the rare time Bush appears in front of an audience that is not carefully screened there is some pent up hostility? Coretta Scott King It takes way more effort to shell out hate then it does to allow love to flow freely in our lives. Sorry if you don't like that. Using what was said at a funeral to score political points is even worse than saying something at an activist's funeral, in case you didn't realize, politically speaking. Right now. You could try and find out why you differ and address that difference through dialogue. 3. God ... showing hater and hated as equals, really helps."..." 1. "We're angry at [the fact that Bush attended the funeral]." Elie Wiesel wrote, “the opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference”. 1. Whether used as a means to cover up feelings of fear or pain, hatred can quickly become all-consuming. I never thought of it that way. Fine. I cringe at the thought that I might actually hate someone and subscribe to Madeleine L’Engle’s thoughts that “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.”. Haters are people who (still) care, but they do so far too much. If you don't have any real emotions inside, faking outrage is alright, I guess. Martin Luther King, Jr. himself used the occasion of the Sixteenth Street Babtist Church funeral for 3 of the 4 girls killed to speak about the Dixiecrats and others who would deny equality. Go Quakers! Give examples too. in my link above, there's a quote by Ms. King, justgary---and there have been many quotes and links posted already about her life. Sorry folks, only the die hard Bush haters would stick up for trashing the president at a funeral. To think that MeFi somehow is part of the Democratic machine is retarded. I've probably read 80-90% of comments you've ever made on this site, longbaugh. Was that a moment of apolitical reverence for the Kings and their legacy or not? So... "conservatives" demonize the word "liberal," while anybody who still self-applies it is a snot? Or, to quote Frederick Douglas: "Agitate, agitate, agitate.". How to use hate in a sentence. They say to each of us, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. Find more ways to say hate, along with related words, antonyms and example phrases at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus. cribcage, fuck off. Another word for hate. I ended by telling her my philosophy is that there are lots of things that happen to us in this life that we have no control over. I don't believe that JekPorkins' primary concern is MLK's legacy. Don't miss out on our next weekly batch. As always, if you ever want to know what the Republicans are guilty of just listen at what they are accusing others of doing. ing, hates v.tr. Recommend to friends. – Coretta Scott King. Famous Quotes about Hate. "Hate is too great a burden to bear. It is a really good expression of how to handle the hate and hopefully bring relief to the hurt that seems to be increasing daily. It's interesting that there are several references to Shakespeare in the thread already. Black. Never heard that one before. This thread is about the GOP reaction to her funeral (gee, i wonder if they're using the funeral for political purposes as well just maybe???) Learn more details and find out ways to participate. ... Reading The Pictures: Laura's "Sit Down Strike" For Coretta King. Wow. I know MetaFilter is littered with die-hard liberals, but it's really surprising sometimes to see just how far off the reservation y'all have wandered. Hatred and hate can often be used interchangeably as nouns, they are synonyms. I'd say that it was in oblique recognition that these ceremonies are intrinsically, Rephrasing what I said earlier.... a bland, politically-correct funeral for Coretta Scott King would have been a. Why was it not the time or the place? It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King. Hate definition is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury. It's not as much about you as it is about them. But we do have this moment. 2. Hate follows success like a shadow – always looking to cast some shade. MLK was not evil. On review, gesamtkunstwerk said pretty much the same thing. On preview-- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did. The unhappiest people in this world, 10. 3. It is a sign of a guilty conscience for Bushites to rail at Jimmy Carter for mentioning this at the recent memorial; the reaction is that of Claudius to Hamlet's play. I would argue that King was a radical, albeit on the liberal side of the spectrum. This time. The best and complete answer wins 10 points. Effigy2000: good job, being persuaded to change your mind. A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. Republicans are evil. To be disinclined (to do something) out of politeness or a need to apologize: I hate to interrupt, but can I ask you a quick question? Hate is too great a burden to bear. Friends Who Liked This Quote. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated." I would say that it wasn't the place because it's a funeral and it's something that shouldn't really be politicised, unless it was something the deceased expressed beforehand that doing so would be ok by him/her. Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. It can be as addictive as alcohol or drugs. Like drugs and alcohol, it can lead to seeking more and more violent forms of it. Isn't it funny how the Republicans have no problem at all stepping all over her funeral by erupting in outrage to eulogies given by her dear friends? If you self-identify as a liberal and you are telling JekPorkins to shut up then I think you need to think long and hard about what liberal means. To honor an activist? Fuck that, you get a yellow flag for wilfull misrepresentation of the underlying "issue," and that's a cheap tactic, ass. (Speak) They have something to say to every Negro (Yeah) who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice. I wish Bush had sent Cheney. And please, stop with the victimhood over all the insults. "Truth to power"? 98. Jek, I'm not saying that the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" haven't changed. As nouns the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is an emotional or psychological hurt (humiliation or bad experience) while hate is an object of hatred. Check out that video if you haven't seen it. – Robert Elliott Gonzales Let's all say it together. It's like somebody cranked up both the republican and the democrat cliche generators and turned them up to 11. I think they’re great minded, but choose to sell … There are those who caused me great grief and lots of pain for who forgiveness is not 100%. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.” – Madeleine L’Engle. But you were responding in a really asshole way to what Relay said. In this Administration it's funny how the "time and the place for those things" is never "now.". MetaFilter is a weblog that anyone can contribute a link or a comment to. Don’t add more reasons for them to be upset by ... to the blatant hatred that is going on. pyramid termite is correct. I've been wondering about that, Malor. And stuff like this: Lowery Responds To Right-Wing’s ‘Politicization’ Criticisms. 7. amberglow, what do you think of Bill setting Hillary up for an ovation? There is no one I can think of who I lack the intention of forgiveness for in my heart. Such people are now blanks where a relationship of some sort has been erased due to the pain they caused me. Neither of yesterday's labels are accurate today. But, you know, keep working the refs or whatever. Any minute could truly be our goodbye. If it was the latter, he's 5 years too late. However with some I am uncertain if complete forgiveness is possible. Oh yea, you're the problem. What you shouldn't do is throw cheap insults and deliberately misread the oppositions words so that you can act like you are channeling the holy spirit of liberty and goodliness. Chasfile, you certainly have a lot to say for a post that you deem "terrible". The psychology of a hater is to impose their self-hate on others. Besides tha,t most of the preceding comments are a load of horseshit. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” 1. Not 100% forgiveness, but close. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. If you're one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is YOU stand for. Non-conservative? I'd like to see you back up this assertion. You asinine political correctness and obtuseness is patently offensive. Non-asshole? Take a more constructive approach with the list of wise and insightful quotes on hate below. “ Love me or hate me. Here's what I find amazing about views like cribcage's and other people trying to label all these eulogies a "liberal screw up": sorry about that bad typing ... should read: Jek, you know what Relay was saying. Porkins, you're living in a dream world if you think MLK was somehow nonpartisan. Don't be an ass. Hate masks personal insecurities. Postroad, there's a difference between insulting a dead person's memory by casting aspersions on his character at the funeral and honoring a hero by continuing her work even at her funeral. - Coretta Scott King. They either see you as a threat. MLK and Coretta were all about telling the truth to power. Thanks ericb, I had no idea that was the source. Outstanding eulogy by Red. Always co-opt or use the symbol for all it’s worth. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.“ Madeleine L’Engle. Jimmy Carter & Reverend Lowery: NO CLASS. 9. So, take a deep breath and accept it. 99. As a adjective hurt is wounded, physically injured. Lowery. “ Pot. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. Why not politicize funerals – especially those of political figures? Hatred is an intense repulsion that creates a mirror effect in that it attracts the person back to the thing hated in order to be repulsed by it over and over. The "not right time or place" is just a distractor that was evidently used to derail attention from what was said and by who during the cerimony. Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? Or they want to be you. At this point I really don’t think I hate anyone and readily admit I have at times confused hurt with hate. ”We may not know what each day has in store for us. However there are times some people might prefer one form over another, and there are fixed expressions which use one form in preference to another. 20 synonyms of hate from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and antonyms. We can say that together, too. “I don’t think haters are small-minded; it’s more tragic than that. They hated him and they hated Martin Luther King. It was about her strength of character and moral bearing. 8. Really, many people have abandoned the word in favor of the less demonized "progressive." Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension. hater definition: 1. a person who says or writes unpleasant things about someone or criticizes their achievements…. So, you're saying that Carter's statement, "we only have to recall the colour of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi who are most devastated by Katrina to know that there are not yet equal opportunities for all Americans," was inappropriate? I wish them no harm or difficulty, but frankly don’t care to know anything about them today. When you call MLK a "liberal," you're just trying to align him with your political team, and I think that's creepy. It was the perfect time and place--and way--to celebrate an activist's life. In 1997, Will Smith introduced a new word into the American lexicon: "hater." See more. It’s a healthy sort of turning a blind eye and putting those old pains up high on a shelf and forgetting about those caused them. More ideas: — Too many results? To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. Don't take hate personally, because at the end of the day -- it just isn't. “Why do haters hate?“ The truth is that there will always be some people who don’t like what you do, no matter what you do. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a … MLK and Coretta have meant a whole lot more to this country than what petty bullshit happened at the funeral. ... resolved to try his hand once more by stirring up fresh quarrels and disturbances. “People ask you for criticism, but they only want praise.“ W. Somerset Maugham. This and all discussions like it minimize their importance. Hate has a way of bringing out the worst in people. 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