Rarely is a winner decided, as the two are usually evenly matched, but in “The Mighty Thor” #126, Hercules laid down the law. My local comics shop (Forbidden Planet) shelves just about every Marvel and DC comic published. IMO, there’s a distinction between writing on multiple levels and writing an all-ages story. And this was the one that sounded interesting, but I just heard about it too late. “while an interesting character, simply can’t support anywhere near that many concurrent titles”. The book was not killed, it was drowned by all the other Thor one-shots, minis and tie-ins floosing the marketplace. The new Avengers team, made up of X-Men and Avengers alike, quickly arrives to do battle with the Skull and his minions. If they want to make money publishing periodicals they should probably make an attempt at some consistency in their distribution. From July 2009 to February 2010, the iTunes store sold two billion songs. Retailers need to be warned that here is something SPECIAL that needs to be recommended to customers – particularly new customers and younger readers who want an entry into the character. On the other hand, I am totally baffled by Chris Hero’s comment. It worked pretty well from 2001 through 2006, before short-term greed became, once again, the driving force of your business models. Despite giving it his all and being aided buy other heroes, having Thor defeated so utterly speaks volumes to the power of the Phoenix, despite being divided in five different hosts. That bookshelf costs money, and you can fill it with free content, or buy titles. Let’s say the spinner rack takes up ten square feet of space on the sales floor. Roger Langridge and Chris Samnee are all-star creators, in my book. Not only that, but something I’m hearing from more and more creators is the lack of promotional support their books get these days. The symbiote quickly leaves a withered/drained Peter Parker and tries to bond with the Hulk. I’ll buy them. Thor resists, but can’t hold out. It leaves not only retailers confused but particularly readers who don’t know what to order when faced with a Marvel Previews with over a hundred new offerings. Long story short, Loki tricks the two heroes into doing battle. Ghost Rider, otherwise known as the Spirit of Vengeance, is a being of frightening might. Nothing surprising here. • If they were affordable. The new power takes over their minds as they go to extremes to champion their cause, including locking any heroes who oppose them in Limbo. Along the way, the Hulk is among the first to encounter it. It is nothing short of epic as Thor and Hulk fight with everything they have. Who killed Thor: The Mighty Avenger? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Okay, I’m spoiled. In response to Shannon’s comment re: comics in Wal-Mart, around 2004 / 2005 Marvel did have a line of oversized comics specifically produced for Target (I believe the content was repurposed from Ultimate Spider-Man and similar. Further- if this really was a Kids book, why pretend that kids go into comic shops and buy single issues? Armed with the ability to absorb radiation, the Red Hulk proved one of Hulk’s mightiest foes. It’s a battle for the ages as both heroes give it everything they got, with Thor launching storms and magic lightning and Superman going all out with his heat vision. King Thor(reigning) Killed most of earths Heroes once he believed the betrayed him(by attacking Him) This did show an unrestrained Thor is nearly unstoppable . That is, until Thor throws his hammer. I live in NJ and comics are sold at 3 local supermarkets, the drug store in my area and in one of the Borders mega stores at the mall. Originally in “Siege,” Thor’s power was the decisive factor in putting down the Sentry, but in "What if?" It wasn’t Samnee’s art, it was the fact that he wasn’t drawing Thor at all. The real Thor was a bit dead at the time, and when he returned and found out about Ragnarok's crimes, he was not at all happy. The daughter of Odin and Freyja, Angela was raised in the Tenth Realm called Heven. is still in the business of publishing periodicals. Not me, sister! I don’t know if this book was 3.99 or not, but I may have had blinders on from the start. While the Silver Surfer proves victorious, he realizes Loki boosted his power, helping him defeat Thor and later discovers that, despite his victory, Thor was holding back. It was a Thor-like character that didn’t look much like Thor. At some point Marvel needs to look at it’s self in the mirror and say, “Dangit, we’re Marvel Comics. (Heck, “license” it to Disney Publishing, and let them market the book like they’re marketing the Tron prequel!). Given the title, I thought this was going to be about getting to the bottom of Quesada saying that the cancelling wasn’t his call. Now… does anyone have the Publishers Statement of Ownership for this title? That means it has to survive the DSM first and to stand a chance, has to try and appeal to that market first. BTW, I’ve bought all 5 issues and was waiting for a collection to give to my 7-year-old comic book reading granddaughter starving for age-appropriate comics she can’t find at her gaming/DM-centric funnybook store in Dubuque, Iowa. I can understand cancelling a comic because the sales are low, but how about giving any comic with a big movie coming out the following year a bit of leeway? It’s the new Sisyphus. Maybe not in your neighborhood they don’t but there’s 3 supermarkets in mine that do and one local drug store. Thor then defeats her with relative ease. 07/10 Mighty Avenger #2 – 14,315 (-28.7%) 3 Modi (Son Of Thor) Referred to as "Thor's Idiot Son" and "Dung Heap" by Sindri, Modi is a demigod and one of Thor's sons, as fans will know. (Marvel also linked the series to the Marvel Adventures titles, so it showed up on the “next issue” page of those comics.). I don’t like going to the comic store, so I try to keep a list of stuff I want to buy and get it all over with at once. I don’t think it’s surprising that middle-of-the-road work by relatively unknown creators on one-of-dozens of books featuring the same property didn’t sell well. To this day, the battle leaves a sour taste in many Thor readers. What kind of marketing was done to tell retailers that this is a book that should be “pushed” to new readers? When Odin brought the infant Loki to Asgard after the war with the Jotuns, Frigga accepted him as her own without any hesitation, although she believed that Odin should have told him the truth about his origins all along. (http://www.theblabbingbaboon.com/?m=20101101) Nearly EVERY kid who got one asked me the same thing (and a few of their parents as well) “Wow! I didn’t buy this series. I bought all the issues (except for the one with Captain Britain, which was sold out at my LCS)! What can I say? In Jeph Loeb’s “Hulk,” readers were introduced to the Red Hulk, General Thaddeus Ross. However, since then, the Red Hulk’s power has been watered down significantly, having gone from a villain to an anti-hero, back to regular General Ross again. They have also gotten those magazines on the Scholastic Book Fair a few times. In so doing, Thor is left utterly defeated. At least until I ran out of books. i may be going out on a limb, but i feel that folks who read the beat and its ilk arent really the ones killing it…who knows though. I had no idea this book existed until a couple weeks ago when Comics Alliance did that round up of the 6 or 7 Thor books on the stands. This is great! Wal-Mart still has the occasional magazine sized collection. Not sure what the strategy is there other than to have the most recent movie star on the cover but there has not been much consistency with it. What’s funny about a little kitten being smacked? The grocery stores in Angelica, Belmont, and Fillmore NY all stopped carrying comics back around 1996. I want them. Meanwhile in the comics Thor has been in near death situations but has never died. Odin, impressed by Bill’s nature, orders the creation of the hammer Stormbreaker for Bill, allowing him power to protect his people. Taking a combined assault of both Thor and the Hulk, Warlock doesn’t even flinch, manhandling the two heroes, along with Mjonir. Perhaps the oversized format — though beautiful in production value — was not well received(?). In this timeline, before the siege of Asgard, the Sentry kills Ares the God of War at the order of Norman Osborn. It sold like a kids book. (After a head shop but before an adult video store.) I think Shannon’s point is that in many places, comics aren’t sold in the same avenues as before and that’s the reason why more kids aren’t into them. Frigga was a strong woman, a majestic queen, and perfectly able to stand at Odin's side. Many times, whenever Thor experiences a loss, it’s because someone was able to outwit him or on account of superficial circumstances or his opponent was a tiny bit stronger than him. I think the cancellation of Thor: TMA has much less to do with event-based marketing or an inability to recognize quality on the part of the readership as it does with the glut of Thor titles currently being released by Marvel. • If they could find them I’ve bought them for my daughter. If you live in Allegany county you have to travel over to the next county, Cattaraugus, in order to find a comic book, and then only in a DM shop (Grand Slam Cards and comics – I love the place but its dank, certainly no Rocketship). There’s enormous pressure on the creative teams, editors, and marketing departments to make every new story seem like a reinvention of the wheel. Harsh! I don’t get it. Doctor Strange has said Ghost Rider’s power is potentially limitless. In this instance, the venom symbiote tried to possess Spider-Man, but thanks to the Fantastic Four, they were able to get it off him. They’ll probably see the decline in magazine sales, cut back on titles, and shelve the comics with the magazines. The problem with selling this book is sandwiching it between all those other Thor one-shots and mini-series. Since the sales are at the bottom of the charts, release the digital copy the same day as the paper copy. And now fans are suggesting that a character who was killed by Thanos in 2018’s Avengers: Infinity War could make a reappearance here. Schools, libraries, families and in particular KIDS want book format comics to take home and read, they do not gravitate towards monthly comics nor do they generally shop at direct market outlets. That was the only time I purchase TJOR on a consistant basis. He played the pet store clerk in the 2011 blockbuster movie "Thor." He can fire energy blasts capable of destroying planets, heal living organisms from nearly any wound, look into the future and the past, use the Power Cosmic to further increase his strength to unknown levels and… well, the list goes on. One of the greatest rivalries in all of comics, the Incredible Hulk and the Mighty Thor have been at odds for years, forever determined to prove who is stronger. So as far as I can see, comics ‘ARE’ where kids and new readers can get at them but it doesn’t appear as though they’re intrested in what’s currently on the stands. A book this highly lauded, this highly regarded gets a stay of the ax. I have never heard of Roger Langridge. 07/10 Mighty Avenger #1 – 20,076 Transformed into a cyborg-like creature by his people the Korbinites to become their champion and protect them from those who would do them harm, Beta Ray Bill’s strength is matched only by his sense of honor and compassion. During the “Original Sin: Thor and Loki” storyline, Thor discovers he has a sister who had been kept secret from him. The strongest of all the Asgardians, second only his father Odin, Thor, the God of Thunder has a power that is well-known throughout the cosmos. I’d be at the comic store and go “Oh hey, one of the Thor comics is supposed to be good. Nobody was supposed to die. Oh no! #200, it’s explained that killing Ares on the field of battle tired the Sentry to the point where he could be hurt. It’s great to make kids comics. 138. Supermarkets and drug stores don’t carry the kids latest video games either. The problem lies clearly in the format and particularly in marketing, or lack of it. With startling psychic power at his disposal, the Red Skull exercises his telepathy by throwing New York into chaos. @Brett The two beings are nearly matched, with Thor’s hammer giving him the ability to go toe-to-toe against the somewhat stronger Superman. 1) We should remember for a moment that most people are not Savvy Internet People, so smartphones/tablets + high-speed Internet connections are not a given. Now, if that square footage can generate greater profits selling something else, the store will probably replace that spinner rack. Thor may have failed to kill Thanos when it mattered most in Avengers: Infinity War, but in Thor #25 by Dan Jurgens, their showdown has a very different outcome. Even though they clownishly half-ass it whenever they try to gain new readers, Marvel does try it occasionally. Eventually, Black Bolt, the leader of the Inhumans, arrives on the scene. Oprah, Rachel Ray, Martha Stewart, People, Us and even Archie… they chose the world. Insanely powerful and downright dangerous on account of his unhinged mental state, the Sentry is often said to wield the power of a million exploding suns. Attacking him, Warlock all but flicks them away. Loki isn’t Thor’s only sibling. This is basically the comics I grew up with. Allegedly, Marvel (and DC etc.) This is how things are, this is the reality. I remember buying THOR #337, the “Ballad of Beta Ray Bill,” and purchasing the book regularly for about a year or so. I’m pretty sure I just accurately described Marvel in the 90’s. If they had done exactly the same stories, but actually used the real characters– you know, the Thor designed by Jack Kirby– it would have sold. Heidi’s grasp of what it is spinner racks are meant to represent–that anyone with a few bucks can get a comic just about anywhere stuff is sold–was pretty shaky, hence my comment. The comic began with Thor’s reappearance on Earth after a thousand-year absence, enabling the creators to chronicle the thunder god’s first meetings with friends and foes ranging from Jane Foster and Captain Britain to Hank Pym and Mr. Hyde. I nominate Thor the Mighty Avenger as a lead title for a new all-digital initiative that puts good comics on the web/iApp for people to buy. And poor TTMA. Introducing Adam Warlock. I bought THOR: THE MIGHTY AVENGER #4 because of the critical acclaim the series had received. Ghost Rider departs the field of battle, leaving Thor with the wind knocked out of him. I’ll go ahead and spell this out for ya, Marvel and DC gave up the world for the direct market. etc. You have to get them where kids and people that buy things for kids can buy them. It’s bases in part on sales, part on returns and in part on which magazine sales reps bust their humps to get the rack space. I live in Pennsylvania (suburbs of Philadelphia) and comics are NOT sold in local supermarkets or drug stores. Despite the decades they’ve had to sort it out, fans of the characters, and the heroes themselves, rarely discover an answer. As hard as this is to accept, there isn’t anything currently published that’s drawing them into the few shops that do have them available. So they payed to keep it going and it was only shown on Dish. Decent sales by the standards of Marvel’s all-ages books. In 1966’s Thor #190, Thor faces certain death at the hands of Hela. Here’s the thing. Every issue on the stands had the same price, unless it was an anniversary issue. The X-Men and the Avengers both rushed to the scene, with the X-Men wanting to wield the power to enact change for mutants and the Avengers wanting to stop the destructive power of the Phoenix. (That’s why you see so much soda and beer advertising when you enter a deli or bar.). It looked like a kids book. They always want to monetize the comic book first. Trying to find alternate markets only throws DM owners into a tizzy. It’s gotta be between him an Huizenga, right? Along the way, he meets the Avengers (Thor, Iron Man, the Hulk, Giant Man and Wasp), who do not know who he is, as it’s still early in their timeline, and consider him a threat. There’s plenty more kids looking for comics but this industry can’t find them. It comes as no surprise then that she can take on Thor. Potentially the strongest non-cosmic superhero in any universe, Superman has defeated gods, demigods, aliens, giant robots…the list goes on. You have to get them on the grocery store magazine rack. It makes me uncomfortable to look at it. At this period in the Ultimate universe, the heroes still have trouble believing Thor is a god, which Loki exploits by using his magic to swell that doubt, leaving the thunder god with little choice but to battle his friends. Having defeated everyone from the Hulk to huge cosmic beings, it should come as no surprise that he’s also beaten Thor. Odin intervenes and gifts Thor with armor imbued with the power of the Odinforce entrusted to the Kings of Asgard. Another "What If?" They’re not aimed at the mainstream. How many people are savvy enough to handle streaming video from Netflix? Thor and crew having a boys night out and getting in a bar fight with Captain Britain! No? Going from hero to villain and back again in a never-ending loop, it was in “What If…Norman Osborn Won The Siege of Asgard,” that readers got an entirely different ending to Siege. Marvel’s problem? But there’s lots of “free” content for those platforms, and stuff which costs money. After a while, it seemed like Walt Simonson’s storyline was running out of steam and I stopped buying it. Now with the strength of the Hulk and Spider-Man, Thor does his best, but can barely hold his own. 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It’s all messed up right now because every publisher pretty much has to serialize the graphic novel before collecting it as a trade before they can get it out of the Direct Sales Market into B&N or Borders or Amazon. In the 2003 series “JLA/Avengers” by Kurt Busiek, however, Thor becomes that obstacle. At Ragnarok , the doom of the gods, he was killed by the poisonous venom of the sea serpent Jormungand , after he had killed it. That’s 10 billion songs in seven years. The real coup de grace came when the Red Hulk, taking hold of Mjonir (with Thor hanging on), leaps into space and beats Thor with his own hammer. Just playing devil’s advocate here, kids are into playing their video games; whether it’s on the wii (sp? With millennia of combat experience and strength capable of moving mountains, Hercules and Thor have shared a rivalry to determine who’s the best for over half a century. Thor was last seen during Ragnarok (a period of time when many Norse gods died), when he was killed by Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent. Now imagine a comics shop online that is just as easy to use as iTunes. But hopefully the fans have a better time now than I did then. Nor should they be, if you have any interest in reaching a wide audience. During her youth, Frigga was raised by witches. Less Than Hulk Zero. Two of the mightiest superheroes on Earth, their fights often lead to the destruction of entire towns and cities. Not in this universe, though. From his renowned Penance Stare to his blasts of hellfire, few heroes or villains have the ability, or nerve, to stand up to the flaming-headed motorcyclist. Those pieces splintered off and possessed five X-Men: Cyclops, Colossus, Emma Frost, Namor and Magick. There is a CONSIDERABLE price hurdle in place for consumers to get to the point where downloading digital comics is a casual transaction. Deja vu ) and they realize all of a sudden that digital is the way forward. A former herald of Galactus, the Silver Surfer has incredible superhuman strength, can travel through space at greater than light speed and can absorb and manipulate the universe’s ambient energy. It takes creativity for writers to come up with obstacles for the Kryptonian. What’s interesting is, from my point of view, that this title got a lot of buzz online from several comic book reviewers, and let it didn’t encourage more people to buy it. Fantastic was responsible for cloning Thor. ), Not sure what became of that Target line, and what the level of success was. Advertising slots are available right now for the Beat. Don’t point the finger at me, copper! How was it that “Spider-Girl” limped along for most of the past decade, yet TMA gets yanked off stage after less than a year of publication? The regional distributors decide that. Available in one week slots. The Hunter Angel shares many of the same attributes of her brother, including incredible strength, speed, durability and a remarkable proficiency with weapons. None of this was any fun before and I don’t know why anyone would think it’d be fun a second time. It wasn’t a good idea. Mark Engblom 11/17/2010 2:12 pm At 2:12 pm The flood of “important event” comics certainly had an impact on TMA’s sales, but I think the primary culprit was Marvel’s glut of Thor … In issue #9, during a climactic battle between the Avengers and the Masters of Evil, Wonder Man gets the upper hand on Thor, sucker punching him and knocking him into a big hole. Would that be possible? I want more “Fred the Clown,” but I also want Mr. Landridge to earn that huge Marvel paycheck. RELATED: Thor VS Hulk: 15 Biggest Fights In Comics. I’d be down for that. Answered June 5, 2019 In Norse mythology Thor is killed after his battle with the World Serpent, Jormungandr. Comics are only sold at Comic Shops and the kids I gave comics to at Halloween (had over 50 kids show up) are interested and would buy them: In “Infinity Revelation,” Adam Warlock is sent to various points in history, some of which are his own. I have to admit, this was me. Like Odin, Loki, and Thor, Hela is a literal god, which means she can't be killed easily. But you have to get them where I can buy them. Thor was killed two days before her 16th birthday. but more importantly: that gif is awesome. Thor takes on the god one-on-one, wins, and once again dies as a result. THOR: THE MIGHTY AVENGER THOR — I never followed him much when I purchased comics. Amidst the battle, Thor is separated from his hammer and transforms back into Donald Blake. A feat never before seen, he is granted the power of Thor. He’s also done stirling work on the Megazine and other stuff I saw before leaving the shores of ol’ Blighty for good in 1993. Hell, I cannot even tell you where to go to find a non-DM shop with comics within 20 blocks of my office here in Soho. entry presents itself on this list in "What If" #4, “What If…The Alien Costume Had Possessed Spider-Man.” What If" scenarios tend to play out much bleaker than they did in the original timeline/universe. Top Sidebar Boombox: 300 px wide x 250 px high, Large Sidebar Boombox: 300 px wide x 600 px high, All ads should be either jpgs or animated gifs. The totality of the Avengers is defeated in seconds and Warlock wasn’t even trying. Beta Ray Bill recovers first, proving himself the victor. BTW, the kittens don’t take the sting out of this news either. I want them. Sometimes you have to publish books a little longer to get the right traction. Despite the God of Thunder’s pleas, Odin kills Hela. Heimdall: Thanos and his children murder Thor’s best friend Heimdall (Idris Elba) when they invade Thor’s ship. In fact, Thor doesn't even really try to kill her himself. Enlisting the help of the Avengers, Reed Richards pursues the symbiote-controlled Spider-Man. We lament it’s passing because it was different and unique, but for most retailers it’s one of a half dozen or more Thor related books that are solicited per month in anticipation of the Thor movie… so that Marvel can turn out a number of collected editions for the book market. Is it worth trying? I didn’t consider buying another issue, not because there was anything wrong with TMA, but because I didn’t want to read a kids book. OKAY, OKAY it was me I’m sorry I’m sorry but I didn’t mean to I was aiming at X-MEN LEGACY and it just GOT IN THE WAY (sobbing helplessly). Dang. While not completely beaten, Thor is taken off the field long enough for our heroes to come together. Odin, who was prepared to raze the entire Earth to avoid this version of Ragnarok, is devastated by his son's death. Hie’s a Kiwi, but don’t hold that against him. What the hell is with that gif of a kitten being smacked? @Shannon Smith: “Here’s the thing. Bummer. Let us know in the comments! I’m mean, it’s not rocket surgery. Cell phones, tablets, computers, televisions… they all have the same cost. This is the type of material they have trained the audiences to look for. I heard no positive or negative word of mouth about it. The Scarlet Witch, with deadly and potent hex magic at her disposal, can become more powerful than nearly any other hero on the planet; at least when she’s either crazed or not in control of her powers. And frankly I’ve stopped looking for Marvel books to buy because I refuse to pay 3.99 for 22 pages of story. Oftentimes without a limit to his profound strength, it’s uncommon for Superman to ever experiences a defeat, much less a challenge. And I’ll take issue with Synsidar that there aren’t “multiple levels” to the writing. Even so, the symbiote, sensing the thunder god’s power, abandons the Hulk and tries to bond with Thor. Basically, despite what every says they want over and over and over — CLEAN ACCESSIBLE COMICS STORYTELLING DOESN’T SELL. At least, I don’t remember it being much fun, being a fan in the 90’s. She likes them. That being said, again, neither of the above were in standard comic format, nor successful (I believe) in prompting the “leap” for new readers to actually seek out comic book specialty stores for more product. -with the current levels of comics readership. So we have once more the giant disconnect between what people SAY they want to see, and what people are actually buying. It didn’t sell, because the editors behind the book thought it would be a good idea to do a visual re-design on the character. This can become… silly. Granted, they don’t sell 20 different Batman comics but there are a few. 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