I can accept that. I'm pretty forgiving on the animation front so some of the shortcomings there didn't bother me as much as it might others. But that doesn’t mean they will always experience loss from then on. None of that, have another montage. Otherwise, his skill trainer has a weird sense of humor.) Slate! Granted, they could have been the bestest of friends, but that's something that we didn't really get from what the anime showed. I don't recall this happening. Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash, Vol. He was strong. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar is a rather solid anime. Thanks for the comment, ilkei. Once again, human down-to-earth moments provide an excellent opportunity to make the world more believable and show us how the world operates, how people in it live their daily lives, etc. The one person they know, no matter what may go down, will not waver. Haruhiro has been training himself to basically fill the hole that was left by a lack of leader as well as their "grinding" for (assumed) weeks on end with the Goblins. … Sometimes we have to accept the reality presented to us – no matter how harsh it may be. It was telegraphed from the very beginning, so it was impossible to get attached to Manato's character. The goblin is as every bit out to kill them as they are him. I can't call bullshit on grimgar. That dude really likes to look up and try to grab it. That's true. As for the ending, it, too, has problems. Here? This is honestly probably the most "anime" trait the series really has at the moment. In other words, each battle isn’t a game, it’s literally a life-or-death situation – for both sides. The rock. Definitely the worst issue, though, is the blatant sexual content. Put 'em up! Even so, it’s better than any prickly straw will ever hope to be. He does not complain about their situation. The weird focus on sexual content, less-than-impressive animation, and annoying developments do, however, get in the way. Shows throughout time have had a tendency to force characters from 0 to a 100 in an unrealistic time frame. One thing you pointed out about...Merry? Everything I've known is a lie! Reddit; Like this: Like Loading... Related. He defends his selfish fighting style because, as he correctly points out, sometimes situations don’t go perfectly, so having options helps the team. They are often accompanied by unusual lighting choices: greens, pinks, and purples. his way through enemy formations, why was the keep storming done with ladders? :P. Why are they insisting on the whole world being "harsh and cruel" when monsters never once threaten the town? You praise the show for realism and while I partially agree, there are too many things that prevent me from seeing it as such. The combination of focusing on Death Spots, the on-the-spot explanation of the "No Life King" (or whatever his name was) with his undead mechanic, and the show not mentioning her having Dispel until right then and there made the whole encounter feel out of place. Read the topic about Grimgar Season 2, when? The rest of the original soundtrack, while not memorable, does include many different insert songs that help to set the mood accordingly. Why are they insisting on the whole world being "harsh and cruel" when monsters never once threaten the town? Comparing her person at the end of the season – running forward with gusto, landing magical spells, and feeling like one of the gang – to who she was at the beginning shows the personal improvements she has made. Hell even magic isn't all that clear, they don't make an establishment that the concept of "Mana" or "energy" exists. “Realistic.” Purposeful word choice. ), (And if you like lounging around, follow me on Twitter @thechuunicorner!). That was really the only moment like that, but I kinda wish there was more of that realism, where things you normally do in a fantasy game without a second thought (like killing a basic grunt) have completely different effects on the individual when done in person. :3. What sorts of events/happenings/directions (similar to the first goblin kill) would you have liked to have seen besides the ones I listed above? If you want, take part in the discussion below! The astute or the quick to point out would argue that, no, Grimgar is not realistic. Prologue: Just a dude looking to get better at reviewing/analyzing anime. As did probably everyone else. However i believe its also not the most "anime" trait at the same time. If you train something to death you become better for it. They’re not complex characters whatsoever, but they’re likable nonetheless. On one level, he is entirely designed to disrupt the group. This added piece of realism, that surviving in a fantasy world is tough, really adds to both series (though in completely different way for both). The different action segments and tenser moments are certainly thrilling, but, once again, the show’s focus on realism strikes hardest. Neither does Haruhiro killing Death Spots. Considering the show's slow pace and focus on down-to-earth moments one would expect the magic system to be similar to that. It seems Grimgar … Not wanting to be outdone, the ED goes in the opposite direction tonally. Despite the … The complete opposite of Grimgar's own downtime moments. If nothing else, the preview piece – just the singular acoustic guitar – that played during (coincidentally enough) each preview was simple in its execution yet serene in its sound. At the minimum, they weren't around together long enough to bring everyone to a grinding halt both physically and mentally. If there's no army then what prevents adventurers from just taking over the world? It happened in episode eight, and one can probably guess which scene it is. Mogzo’s easygoing attitude and “Thank You!” attacking. One of the biggest errors the anime makes is in Merry’s resolution. I hope to see you in either! They just yell their skill names and use them, like one would in a game. He was hardly one. After all, the show is trying to go for a realistic approach, so (as you say), the characters not worrying about the outside world means that we, the audience, shouldn't worry about the outside world as well. That’s Manato’s best contribution: He allows Haruhiro to grow as a person. On one level, it’s basically them wanting to avenge Manato’s killers. He’s usually just a jerk towards everyone – especially Yume. I could cheer for her all day. I.e., fan-service. Haruhiro trying his best to lead the team. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar is a rather unique watch. Twitter, too. She rarely speaks, but, when she does, one has to listen because it must obviously be important. This item: Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash (Light Novel) Vol. By far, it's the most realistic take on "trapped in a fantasy world / MMO." He interacts with Yume, Merry, Shihoru, Ranta, and Mogzo more so than anybody else. Some titles may still use the Japanese original until an English title is announced. Unfortunately, Grimgar somewhat drops the ball (or, maybe in this case, drops the sword). Granted, the show focuses more on this group and their mission rather than expanding its vision, and, indeed, they do realistically stay in one place the entire time. But these moments are merely passable whereas the offending ones are wholly unacceptable. October 4, 2016 October 28, 2016 Cho Review Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. A lot of the show is simply the characters speaking with one another, but these quainter moments are barely filled with movement. All because Haruhiro had that ideal to look up to. Her not being that strong of a fighter also doesn’t help her self-esteem much. Minecraft Skin. 2 Author: Ao Jumonji (Story), Mitsumi Okubashi (Art), Eiri Shirai (Characters) Publisher: Yen Press Language: English Format: Paperback Pages: 240 Genre: Sci-Fi, Action Publication Date: October 31, 2017. This review and more can be found over at The Chuuni Corner! Tuturuuuuuu…^-^,right now i want to review this great anime! He is the one that takes the brunt of the damage to protect everyone. The realistic portrayal continues to the group themselves. Check out the guidelines~ Reviews Reviews by Cho Akaoni: Contract with a Vampire vol. The last stretch involves the mine and the myriad of conflicts that ensue. Ships from and sold by … You don't get a free pass in the world, you still need to earn money to pay for lodgings and supplies. I don't like his personality, by the way. Grimgar’s cast, while far from perfect, are a strong bunch. :P, (Ashes to ashes! Be civil and respect other people's opinions. They learn about each other, and they start working as a team. At the same time, Ranta and the others find it hard to approach her while subconsciously not being as welcoming as they could be. What is this, I've been lied to! Shoes way too big for the plain, unassuming rogue. Yes, Haruhiro doesn’t technically grow as a person, but he certainly grows as a leader. Critiques are welcome. So this may be an unwarranted nitpick. Working a job is tough. and it is called “Grimgar : Ashes and Illusions”. When the group is fighting goblin after goblin after goblin or when the group is simply enjoying their day off, the accompanying songs bring the thrill and the chill, respectively. They are just a bunch of regular people trying to survive off of dingy lodgings, scarce food, and not enough new underwear. This is a spoiler-free review. Though, to be fair, that could be an argument for the realistic approach -- most actual conversations are not very "interesting" to listen to. Manato was a symbol, an idea, someone who was supposed to die just to try and entice some emotion from the viewer and the characters. Game of Thrones Mega Huge Spoilers. on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! I have to read the novel/Wiki before i personally call bullshit on anything. Everything else felt lacking in terms of creativity. Its kind of like a normal experience thing. :P. The series had mentioned what happens to corpses that aren't disposed of earlier in the show... Do you remember which episode? Story: Fine, a realistic portrayal of a fantastical setting sees highs in its mundane events and dramatic happenings and lows in its botched final stretch, lack of world-building, and unnecessary sexual content, Animation: Fine, beautiful art, nice character designs, and below average actual animation, Characters: Good, Merry stands on top, with Manato supporting Haruhiro’s development, Ranta, Mogzo, Shihoru, and Yume filling their roles well, and a theme on non-lasting loss threading between them, Sound: Good, good OP, good ED, good OST, and okay VA performances, Enjoyment: Fine, likable characters and emotions throughout, but forcing Yume’s romantic pairing is a no-go, Epilogue: Thanks for taking the time to read my review. BANJO! For me, in this case, I felt that Manato was used appropriately and accordingly, ending up as one of the better characters in the show overall for this reason. Afterwards, the weird continuity skip of Ranta evading the kobolds despite being in a clearly inescapable situation does not help matters, either. The rest of the cast are similar to Manato in that they each have a role to play. Nope. The realism is. That it almost becomes "second nature" to perform such acts of violence (because they have to). Seeing Yume’s butt, Shihoru’s breasts, and Merry’s legs, while each titillating in their own right, are not exactly relevant. Allow me to explain. She’s changed from the likable, carefree girl she used to be. Such lights add ambiance, a sense of familiarity and longing and happiness. Such "nakedness" lets us "see" more of their characters, how they act when "laying bare," in those brief moments. ...when they killed the first goblin and it was really taxing on them mentally and morally. For Shihoru, she originally is very shy, almost scared. He decides to take the spoils of war without remorse since the enemy no longer needs or cares about the. He doesn’t immediately accept Merry’s sob story because he, and they as well, have felt similar loss. Manato’s death forces Haruhiro to fill Manato’s shoes. He was someone that they all looked up to in one way or another – and nobody more so than Haruhiro. Some may know of this, but for those who do not, they would the 5 stages of grief: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. It’s slow, filled with just a piano and the vocalist for nearly half the track. That whole altercation and idea in general was easily a highlight of the anime. Bleh. In the Cyrene Mine, she literally finds her old companions, saving them from themselves which, in turn, saves herself from herself. Some have color symbolism: Shihoru’s lavender coloring represents her sweetness, Merry’s blue coloring represents her (initial) coldness, and so on. Titles are as sold in the West when available. (The OP and the ED were courteously provided by r/AnimeThemes. He was smart. The Story. He cooks food for the group whenever he can. Rules will be especially enforced in this thread, and I'm going to put an emphasis on the following points: Spoilers ahead for everything up to this point! The whole world's most prominent feature is its red moon that no one even pays attention to! :D. Thanks for the comment, ill. And please make sure to answer my questions with those spoilers (if you can). At what point "should" a character be well defined versus just having a specific part to play? For that’s exactly what Grimgar is: realistic. Manato was a symbol, an idea, someone who was supposed to die just to try and entice some emotion from the viewer and the characters. Shihoru’s sweetness. Merry is without a doubt the strongest character that the anime includes. It doesn't drive the plot. Merry is a beautiful-looking girl that Haruhiro grows close to the more he interacts with her. --This text … Most people don't put up with mean jerks, people who insult other's appearances, or compromise their safety. Grimgar #16 Hachi Dai Shuzoku #03 I’ll Never Set Foot #02 Imouto wa Kanji ga Yomeru #05 Infinite Dendrogram #14 Infinite Stratos #13 Isekai Konyoku #07 Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! The anime communities across Reddit, Tumbler, … 1Aldnoah Zero ExtraAlice's TaleAll … Fear, survival, instinct. A nighttime argument between two supposed friends. The character designs, while not as beautiful as the art, have their own appeals to speak of. :P. But I am with you. Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash - The Leaders and the Led (Novel 4) 2017-12-12 Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash - Hear Me Out, and Try Not to Laugh (Novel 5) 2018-02-20 I was just as confused as you were about her name, so I wandered over to her MAL page. Sure, as friends they go through more troubles. ...where things you normally do in a fantasy game without a second thought (like killing a basic grunt) have completely different effects on the individual when done in person. I.e., another thing we can agree on. While watching the anime, I thought it made sense that they became desensitized to at least the killings. For Ranta, he is the voice of reason. Grimgar Of Fantasy And Ash Season 2 Release Date: As stated earlier, Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash receives mostly positive review. The lack of world-building was also a gripe that I had. Grimgar finds Haruhiro, Manato, and many other everyday people in a brand new world. I was actually so against it that I even hesitated to put any examples involving them in my "Enjoyment" section because I didn't want to even indulge for a second them being together. Though, as has been discussed at length, the fantasy element is not the focus. The group not reacting to Haruhiro being alive and well, the relationships between many of the characters having not progressed all that much, and the uncertainty of what the group is meant to do next leave Grimgar ending on a questionable note. After doing it for so long (in that one goblin city), one would expect to feel the same way as them. (pictured: The Devil is a Part-Timer!) In most fantasy games, you die and come right back to life. In any "realistic" scenario someone like him, someone who charges forward without thinking, constantly creates conflicts inside party, compromises party's plans, and at some points even gets close to accidentally killing his teammate, would be kicked faster than you could ask "What would Manato do?". As it appears Ranta can now Keijo!!!!! Action sequences are the same. It totally makes sense that he ends up with her. I KNOW YOU AREN'T HATING ON THE YUME BUTT! Nope. It also happens to be one of Grimgar’s highlights. I went with Merry for MAL-consistency sake. In the end, her cries for Haruhiro, her friendliness towards the others, and simply the smile on her face demonstrate that she has fully progressed as a character, proving the high level of execution in her arc. MAL has it as Merry, and Crunchyroll used Mary. He evidently has emotions, and he cries out in pain when hurt. In fact, I think I was way too busy defending Shihoru as best girl to care much about the ships. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - Haruhiro [poncho-less version in desc.] ...you and I are gonna fight! It doesn't even drive the romance forward since, well, nothing ever fully blossomed there. If I had to choose between a regular bed and one of those beds, I would choose the former every time. Seeing the cast segmented in this manner makes it appear as though their connecting theme deals with everyone having a role. That’s a nice interpretation since it fits the fantasy motif: damage-per-second, tank, and healer are common roles for people in a similar setting. So I should have gone with that spelling instead. Manato's "shocking" death had zero impact on me. :), The Yume x Haru camp, and the people that were part of that camp and then became traitors. Meaning both sides are not necessarily ready to welcome new people. I would have tolerated the pairing more if the show hadn’t already paired Haruhiro and Yume together and if Ranta had been a bit more compassionate. The anime made it rather clear that Death Spots was her block, what she needed to overcome to move forward. I actually saw a different thread earlier today involving this same discussion, so I can guess who you are potentially referring to. Yet as Grimgar shows, sometimes we don’t get a choice. To me Grimgar was a huge disappointment. A small chat on a bridge with some birds. I really like some of the realistic approaches some of the recent shows in this genre are taking. Granted, I had always seen as Mary, too. Quite frankly I actually thought the lack of larger world-building was fitting, at least at this point. His death makes it as obvious as possible that anything can happen. While Ranta is a big jerk, seeing him cry after killing the goblin was all too real to see. My biggest gripe with this anime is pretty petty. It did seem as though they were a bit too attached to him. I’ll admit that. Suffice it to say that I can understand this line of thinking. All of his maybe-spiritual-possibly-real asides with Manato encourage him to try harder. ...isn't it Mary rather than Merry? Such as the guided Lethal strike. "Hey guys! It annoyed me how quickly the Yume Haruhiro pair was dropped as well. It felt so real because it's exactly how all of us would react in that same situation -- despite how much we would tell ourselves otherwise. It’s because of this that I was a bit skeptical of Grimgar of Fantasy And Ash which is another show about people who get transported to an MMO and have to deal with it. Actually, why don't they all just band together and kill all the enemies? Merry fits this category. His death hits harder than any goblin ever could, causing them to question how they will survive in this troubling world. Or at least the person who says what’s really on everyone’s minds. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. If you haven't completely caught up with J-Novel's translations, go read it and then come back and join us. The group’s struggles don’t stop after Manato’s death. In fact, I would argue that the only good "dialogue" was between Haruhiro and himself. But that’s somewhat the point. It has to be she ends up with Haruhiro, Merry and Yume end up with Haruhiro, or Yume ends up with a different, new character altogether. I thought the fight scenes were done really well, and had a really good sense of actual danger to them, but the dialogue bits were really boring sometimes. It's even worse! Looking at the anime as a whole, even more problems surface. I hope to see you in either. In other words, I find that a character doesn't have to necessarily be "well defined" in the beginning-middle-end character-arc sense. Just Rakugo to go and then my Top 10 for the season. Another issue with realism is the fact that the show never does anything to flesh out its setting. But then the anime throws in, without warning, her now-undead previous group. This is a good point that I never thought about. Join forum discussions on the anime Hai to Gensou no Grimgar (Grimgar: Ashes and Illusions) on MyAnimeList, the internet's largest anime database. However, within the first few minutes … Though another commenter brought up an idea (one that I thought about but didn't include outright) that keeping the focus on just their tiny spot (relative to the world) rather than branching out kept things centralized on them while also upping the realism (in the sense that they wouldn't be concerned with such dealings/happenings so far away). Well, just like I told you on Twitter yesterday, you and I are gonna fight! And let's not forget that the show tried to fool the viewer by not showing the arrow sticking from Manato's back for some inexplicable reason! That, just like the real world, life can be filled with immense sorrow. To clarify (if my paragraphs did not make it clear), I am a fan of such material, but it still has to serve the time and the place. NO! Thanks for the comment, Smurf. We'll butt heads here the most I believe. I like Yume a lot. :P). Obviously, we don't have to deal with goblins and magic and swords stabbing our guts, but it's a tough go here on Earth nonetheless. They should have … Man, the weekend feels good. Merry’s inclusion does slow the anime down somewhat, but the transition is, as always, realistic. They each brought something different to the table. Be it all the way to port or into the bottom of the sea. While I did harp on the show for improper world-building, you are totally right that the show didn't even really flesh out its own city. Trying to survive on the highway with maniac drivers on a daily basis represents one more day to live. Haruhiro can’t speak in the same gentle manner. I thought it was really interesting when they killed the first goblin and it was really taxing on them mentally and morally. Indeed, that’s basically what happens. It further extends to the characters, particularly Ranta. Title: Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash Vol. Thrown into a … 2 (manga) (Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash (manga)) by Ao Jyumonji Ao Paperback $12.23 Only 2 left in stock - order soon. Read the topic about Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Volume 14+ Discussion on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! Are there other cities? Hey, just finished volume 3 of the light novels. Much like they do. Grimgar has some beautiful background art. What is this, I've been lied to! ...but the dialogue bits were really boring sometimes. Merry’s wonderful character arc. Give me anything! All reviewed Anime listed in scoring order. While lots of crying is had, voice acting does not see any stand-out performances. Thus, the group opens up to her. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews… :(. Yes, the glowing streams were established earlier on in the season and even used throughout. They can sometimes have continuity errors or even long still-frames to give the appearance of dynamism. Go check them out! It's just like the real world that we live in. Such change in them -- from being afraid to "getting good at it" -- also represents some nice development for the cast overall. The everyday lifestyle is also another strong example. Even the master had claimed that she saw them from time to time but seeing as she was a guild master she likely never particularly went out hunting monsters like that as often as Haruhiro did. Except Harurhiro. Now that's something we can always agree on! And Manato simply being a really nice person. It's super cute, dude!!! She’s cute, silly, and a caring person to boot. The series had mentioned what happens to corpses that aren't disposed of earlier in the show, the chance they had "risen" and were wandering the mines was definitely on my mind. He was their leader. Of both this crazy world they find themselves in as well as just the people in general, including her own group. Much of the cinematography also goes a long way towards capturing that realistic feel. As a straight male, seeing the girls' different assets is more than welcoming. Eiri Shirai is a Japanese manga artist best known for the illustrations in Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. Because, realistically, this world is not much different. Beyond my frustration and the cast, one moment in particular got to me. But she’s finally not doing it alone; she has her newfound friends. As for the other characters, I liked them. Most interesting of all, though, is how the group stays within the same town for presumably weeks. Why? That will sadly never change. I can't accept the anime bait-and-switching me with Yume and Haruhiro clearly being a pair in the first six episodes (episode five practically solidifies their romance), and then the show has the gall to subtly imply she will end up with the dude that constantly calls her "flat-chested.". That’s true. The show basically doing away with Haruhiro and Yume’s intimate scene in episode five, and Ranta going back to his name-calling ways despite nearly dying only made me madder. I thought her name was Mary?! Not because he’s also a priest but because he serves a two-fold role. Arguing against the idea that the anime is completely realistic is a fool’s errand. If not, then it simply hurts whatever it is the show set itself out to do. Them getting a badge for Manato, too, and Haruhiro’s final words – “We’ve become a good party” – solidify the strength they have gained together as well as the lump in my throat from trying to fight back tears. 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